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Blue Milk & Cereal: Do You Miss Swimming?
No day would be complete without the breakfast of Jedi: Blue Milk & Cereal. Every morning, the team at Ask A Jedi will get Force-induced thoughts coursing through your head with delicious issues from around the galaxy! Join in the discussion below to make your voice heard!
Editor’ Note: I’ve had fun lately going back through some old polls we did from well before the game was out, so I think it’s equally fun to re-ask some of those questions again! We’re doing that today with an oldy but goody… swimming! You can also read my opinion on the whole topic here in Lethal Injection: The Drowning Pool
As you stroll through the Jedi compound on Tython, you are continually awestruck by the beauty of the planet. The landscape is dotted with sparkling lakes and one with a particularly beautiful waterfall catches your eye. You run over to check it out. As you stand at the edge, you wonder how deep it is. You stare at it, sigh, and walk away. There will be many more unexplored lakes in your future. Somewhere in your Jedi training they forgot to include the skill of swimming.
Aion, World of Warcraft and other popular MMOs all offer the ability to swim. One could even say that swimming has become a standard feature of modern MMOs. When BioWare announced that swimming would not be included at TOR’s release, there was a massive outcry from TOR’s community. Citing that they would have to create underwater content to justify adding swimming, BioWare’s Georg Zoeller responded that it’s something they might do at a later time.
So, are you going to miss swimming? Do you think adding swimming at a later date is a bad thing? Will it affect your decision to buy TOR?
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I was surprised to see that the game wouldn’t include swimming when clearly it contains plenty of water in which to swim. However, I love the fact that it’s not something I’m going to have to worry about. Having to fight in a 3D environment isn’t something that appeals to me, so I’m glad it won’t be an issue (at least until PvP space combat).
I’m not surprised after playing the game. Swimming in something like SWTOR would be just another “meh” type of thing if it was done the same way say WoW did it; it would just dilute the awesome. If bioware were to create a planet built around the mechanic of being underwater and make it unique instead of just swimming animations and moving slower then yeah I’d like to see it
It kind of feels weird since there is no explainable reason not to swim. That being said, it makes perfect sense not to do it. Why waste the time on the animation and artwork needed for something that provides no real value to the game. Plus, honestly, Swimming rarely ever looks right in a video game.
Ok, confession time; I have a level 44 Jedi Con and a level 27 Gunslinger. This was the 1st time I read that I couldnt swim. I just haven’t needed to so far… So no, I don’t miss it as I wasn’t aware I couldnt have it in the first place.
I was surprised when we found out that it wouldn’t have swimming. But it makes sense now seeing how much is missing from the game. However, it doesn’t bother me at all and iin fact look foreward to the day when they add it, I know if/when they add it we would probably get some pretty cool content and water worlds with it.
Ok … I know its not the question bit I have to hijack the comments and circle back to fishing/cooking. No its not heroic but I find it relaxing and entertaining. We see drinks that give buffs in certain Cantina’s, why not a challenging 2nd ties crew skill. The plant and animal nodes are defined, just give a different result for non-bio people. Or add some other mechanism for gathering the needed materials. And this time make the Crits and Fails fun!
If the future intention would be to consider swimming as in underwater content, a Sea World and specialist underwater kit and races then I’d be addicted – maybe I’m biased I am a Scuba Instructor.
Why isn’t the water around the light saber boiling? Or at least doing something? There’s my problem with swimming and such. I’d rather not swim than be able to just do the same things I do on land but in a 3-d environment under water. GW2 might get underwater right; we’ll see.
It only bothers me a little bit. It bothered me more when there was one quest where someone said they couldn’t do something because it was too far to swim and I had just run across a sand bar to get to the place. At that point, it broke my disbelief a bit.
The only thing I miss is not being able to jump into deep water and live.
Im surprised that there isn’t swimming just because it is available in all the other games. I do not miss it by any means though. If there were barriers where I would drown or there would be a river that wasn’t easily crossed I would say it is an issue. Since there are none of these things in the game then it really isn’t a loss.
Honestly, in WoW, I loved swimming until Vashj’ir. After three zones of water, and having to take into account altitude much more often than on land, I made a pact never to return once I got my tabard.
If and when Bioware decides to implement underwater swimming zones, I hope they make it intuitive and user-friendly.
There are so many more important things they need to take care of other than swimming. The most important being the horrible state of PvP in the game.
Can I get an amen for brother ScytheNorie’s comment
I didn’t like swimming in WoW, and glad its not in SWTOR. The only way it would be cool is if they gave you vehicles to use underwater and have combat inside the vehicle.
Not surprised, and happy to see it go. Swimming in games is god awful about 99% of the time. Even if it starts off fun, the game ends up making you regret every moment of it in the long run. Anyone who played a position-based Feral Druid or Rogue in WoW knows what i’m talking about.
No need for it and they clearly designed the game to make it a non-issue.
I don’t miss swimming in the slightest. Combat in a 3D/underwater setting isn’t very fun, more often than not.
And really, using a lightsaber underwater… or blasters… it just doesn’t work. Using a sword underwater doesn’t, either. Many underwater areas are bland, too… they would all have to be akin to tropical seas, loaded with coral and colorful sea-life and the like, to make the experience visually appealing — and even that would get old after a while.
The most I’d like to see is an underworld city, protected by a shield/bubble.
i think it could be a cool future edition but like most people have said its not something they need to be working on just yet. get the game to a good working state then worry about adding other mechanics like swimming
In most sources lightsabers don’t work underwater, it’d kind of hamstring the Knight/Warrior. =p
Swimming, deep lakes and oceans may expand into BW adding in Gungan NPCs. Something that I hope will never happen.